2008 Presidential Selector
Submitted by larry on July 26, 2006 - 12:07pm.
Candidates 2008
OK, let's have a little fun. Most, if not all here, say they support Wes Clark in 2008. But let's have some fun with this. I just found this Presidential Candidates Selector tool. It tells you which matches your preferences best. I had no idea what this thing would spit out for me, given my answers to the questions. I'm proud to say Wes Clark was 1st for me, then Feingold. No surprises there. Have a go at it and post your results in this thread. No gaming. Answer the questions honestly, not what you think will get you Wes Clark as #1!
Kucinich came up for me, then Feingold, then Clark. And I ain't no knee-jerk liberal.
Stan Davis
Lakewood, CO
BE THE CHANGE you wish to see in the world.
If not us, WHO? If not now, WHEN?
This selector has mainly the dimension of issues, it does not address other things that matter just as much in making a selection. My support for Wes is not just a matter of issues, as I do find disagreements, but of what is good for America and several fronts.
So it is fun, but only an issue-indicator not a presidential-selector.
Kucinich came up for me, then Feingold, then Clark. And I ain't no knee-jerk liberal.
Stan Davis
Lakewood, CO
BE THE CHANGE you wish to see in the world.
If not us, WHO? If not now, WHEN?
100%) 1: Rep. Dennis Kucinich
(94%) 2: Sen. Russ Feingold
(93%) 3: Ex-Gen. Wesley Clark
(92%) 4: Ex-VP Al Gore
(92%) 5: Sen. John Kerry
"Some of them put on their cowboy boots and put their feet up on the desk." -Wes Clark
Those are exactly the results that I got. Exactly.
But going through the "information" section, I could see why. Apparently the General has the same rating on the war as the people who voted for it.
And, as noted below, many areas which should be clearly known, are marked "unknown." Actually, I'm surprised that Wes ended up in my top three.
You have not converted a man because you have silenced him.--J. V. Marley
We'll all be getting vouchers.
You have not converted a man because you have silenced him.--J. V. Marley
My results were
Kucinich
Clark
Feingold
in that order even tho I marked as high priority that my selection should not have served in congress
What would you do for a Klondike Bar?
Percent Rank Item
(100%) 1: Ex-Gen. Wesley Clark (D)
(91%) 2: Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D)
(88%) 3: Ex-VP Al Gore (D)
(85%) 4: Sen. Joseph Biden (D)
(83%) 5: Sen. Russ Feingold (D)
(especially check out how poorly somw does when it comes to people answering policy questions...)
Top results in order of frequency for the selector, "Presidential Candidate Selector -- 2008 Front Runners", are below... (12175 accesses)
#1 22.9% Sen. Russ Feingold (D) Information
#2 10.6% Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D) Information
#3 9.7% Ex-Gen. Wesley Clark (D) Information
#4 8.6% Sen. George Allen (R) Information
#5 6.3% Rep. Tom Tancredo (R) Information
#6 5.3% Ex-Rep. Newt Gingrich (R) Information
#7 5.2% Ex-VP Al Gore (D) Information
#8 4.2% Sen. Majority Leader Bill Frist (R) Information
#9 3.4% Sen. Sam Brownback (R) Information
#10 2.9% Gov. Bill Richardson (D) Information
#11 2.8% Ex-Gov. Mark Warner (D) Information
#12 2.7% Sen. Evan Bayh (D) Information
#13 2.6% Gov. George Pataki (R) Information
#14 2.4% Sen. Joseph Biden (D) Information
#15 1.9% Gov. Mitt Romney (R) Information
#16 1.6% Ex-Mayor Rudy Giuliani (R) Information
#17 1.3% Sen. Chuck Hagel (R) Information
#18 1.3% Sen. Hillary Clinton (D) Information
#19 1.2% Sen. John Kerry (D) Information
#20 1.0% Sen. John McCain (R) Information
#21 0.7% Ex-Sen. John Edwards (D) Information
#22 0.6% Gov. Mike Huckabee (R) Information
#23 0.4% Sec. Condoleezza Rice (R) Information
#24 0.4% Sen. Christopher Dodd (D) Information
#25 0.1% Gov. Tom Vilsack (D) Information
On this page it says Clark's stance on civil liberties is unknown or in the middle. So when I marked that question as high priorty did that automatically move Kucinich and Feingold up because they were sourced as supporting protecting civil liberties as opposed to decreasing civil liberties?
Surely there are documents showing Wes supports protecting civil liberties. If someone could find instances it might be worth sending the info to SelectSmart.com.
"Some of them put on their cowboy boots and put their feet up on the desk." -Wes Clark
Wes is definitely on the record as being pro-civil rights - for example, the online phone record thing. He's been VERY careful to call attention to protecting our Constitution many many times- often in television appearances & with great frequency in speeches. When it comes to protecting civil liberties, Wes is a bit of a "hawk."
There's even one or two speeches- I'll have to scratch my head about it- where this theme is one of his main points. A New Hampshire Road to the White House from early winter maybe is one? People here will know.
if someone does alert them I think it is also "improper" for them to say "ex-General" when they mean "retired," right? Not to pick nits.
entered a lawsuite on a Michigan? equal opportunity case. Forgot the details. They didn't do their research.
Noel
Wes filed an amicus curiae brief touting the Army's benefits from affirmative action. Wes strongly supports affirmative action.
I think there were two such cases, one for the undergraduate program and another for the law school. I don't know in which case Wes weighed in. In each case, the issue was admissions criteria.
Stan Davis
Lakewood, CO
BE THE CHANGE you wish to see in the world.
If not us, WHO? If not now, WHEN?
Wes supported Michael Moore's First Amendment Rights when the rest of them were wetting their pants.
You have not converted a man because you have silenced him.--J. V. Marley
Dennis came up as my second choice - never woulda thunk it! LOL
Win with Wes in '08
(100%) 1: Ex-Gen. Wesley Clark (D) Information (95%) 2: Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D) Information (92%) 3: Sen. Russ Feingold (D) Information
Definitely all for fun. If I switched that I didn't care if somone was a member of Congress, then I get Feingold, then Clark.
Well, I like the first 3 results... the next 2 - not so much...
(100%) 1: Ex-Gen. Wesley Clark (D) Information
(98%) 2: Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D) Information
(98%) 3: Sen. Russ Feingold (D) Information
(92%) 4: Sen. John Kerry (D) Information
(88%) 5: Sen. Joseph Biden (D) Information
(84%) 6: Ex-VP Al Gore (D) Information
Once in a while you get shown the light, In the strangest of places if you look at it right. - Hunter/Garcia
(100%) 1: Ex-Gen. Wesley Clark (D) Information
(88%) 2: Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D) Information
(85%) 3: Sen. Russ Feingold (D) Information
(82%) 4: Sen. John Kerry (D) Information
(81%) 5: Ex-VP Al Gore (D)
Stem Cell Research - Support the War on Terrorble Diseases
(100%) 1: Ex-Gen. Wesley Clark (D) Information
(95%) 2: Sen. John Kerry (D) Information
(93%) 3: Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D) Information
(93%) 4: Sen. Russ Feingold (D) Information
(91%) 5: Sen. Joseph Biden (D) Information
(85%) 6: Ex-Sen. John Edwards (D) Information
(85%) 7: Ex-VP Al Gore (D) Information
(81%) 8: Sen. Christopher Dodd (D) Information
(79%) 9: Sen. Hillary Clinton (D) Information
I left all choices at the "medium" level.
...or something, because I got what I wanted, except for Kucinich and Kerry. Edwards should've been third.
Camille
(100%) 1: Ex-Gen. Wesley Clark (D) Information
(97%) 2: Ex-VP Al Gore (D) Information
(95%) 3: Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D) Information
(95%) 4: Sen. John Kerry (D) Information
(88%) 5: Sen. Russ Feingold (D) Information
(85%) 6: Sen. Joseph Biden (D) Information
(78%) 7: Ex-Sen. John Edwards (D) Information
100% Wes. Though Kucinich did come in second....odd.
Ron Esquerra
Alger County Democratic Party
Candidate for County Commission
Proud Veteran, Wesley Clark Democrat.
Percent Rank Item
(100%) 1: Sen. Russ Feingold (D) Information
(95%) 2: Ex-Gen. Wesley Clark (D) Information
(93%) 3: Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D) Information
(87%) 4: Ex-VP Al Gore (D) Information
(87%) 5: Sen. Christopher Dodd (D) Information
(87%) 6: Sen. John Kerry (D) Information
(82%) 7: Sen. Joseph Biden (D) Information
(79%) 8: Sen. Hillary Clinton (D) Information
(78%) 9: Ex-Sen. John Edwards (D) Information
(74%) 10: Gov. Tom Vilsack (D) Information
(62%) 11: Gov. Bill Richardson (D) Information
(62%) 12: Sen. Evan Bayh (D) Information
(54%) 13: Ex-Gov. Mark Warner (D) Information
(47%) 14: Gov. Mitt Romney (R) Information
(41%) 15: Gov. Mike Huckabee (R) Information
(37%) 16: Ex-Mayor Rudy Giuliani (R) Information
(35%) 17: Gov. George Pataki (R) Information
(35%) 18: Sec. Condoleezza Rice (R) Information
(28%) 19: Sen. Majority Leader Bill Frist (R) Information
(27%) 20: Sen. John McCain (R) Information
(23%) 21: Ex-Rep. Newt Gingrich (R) Information
(21%) 22: Sen. George Allen (R) Information
(13%) 23: Rep. Tom Tancredo (R) Information
(9%) 24: Sen. Chuck Hagel (R) Information
(8%) 25: Sen. Sam Brownback (R) Information
are:
100% Feingold
97% Clark
94% Kerry (ed. note: eeeek!)
92% Kucinich
I marked civil liberties as a high priority issue too. When I changed my survey to show that civil liberties were low priority, my ratings changed to:
100% Clark
99% Feingold
95% Kerry
93% Kucinich
Humph.
Did this test before...
Clark
Kucinich
Feingold
Hey, what do you want from an 'airhead liberal?'