Aaron Brown said "serious news at risk" in 2006 & Bernard Shaw confirmed it now!


Hello Everyone:

I found it very interesting that former CNN anchor Aaron Brown predicted "serious news at risk" in January of 2006 and then another former CNN anchor Bernard Shaw confirmed that in October of 2008!

Right below is an article titled "Broadcaster says serious news at risk" from January of 2006 where Aaron Brown in my opinion correctly said that "Truth no longer matters in the context of politics and, sadly, in the context of cable news" and "Many Americans on the left and the right aren't interested in the truth, but simply want news that confirms their viewpoints."

Here is the CNN transcript from Thursday, October 2 where Bernard Shaw in my opinion correctly complained about today's campaign news coverage when he said that journalists "tell readers and listeners and viewers what they personally think about the news" and "I don't believe people should know my personal opinions. I have strong personal opinions and they have no place in reporting the news and certainly not in reporting a presidential news, but I am staggered at what I see and read and observe on the internet:"

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0810/02/sitroom.02.html

THE SITUATION ROOM

Politics As Usual in the Bailout Bill; Americans' Retirement Accounts Take A Hit; Vice Presidential Debate Preview

Aired October 2, 2008 - 17:00   ET

WOLF BLITZER, CNN ANCHOR: "Well, you have had a unique perspective of the past few years and no longer being the lead anchor here at CNN, and give us the impression of how the news media has covered this current campaign from the, shall we say an outsider's perspective albeit sympathetic with those on the inside.

BERNARD SHAW, FORMER CNN ANCHOR: Well, my lone regret is that there has been some sloshing over from just straight journalism, news reporting and hard news reporting to actually enabling writers and people on the air to -- television and radio -- out of one side of their mouths report the news and out of the other to actually tell readers and listeners and viewers what they personally think about the news. I am an old fashioned journalist when it comes to that. My idols were Edward R. Murrow and Walter Cronkite. I don't believe people should know my personal opinions. I have strong personal opinions and they have no place in reporting the news and certainly not in reporting a presidential news, but I am staggered at what I see and read and observe on the internet.

BLITZER: Thank you, Bernie Shaw..."

I totally agree with both Aaron Brown and Bernard Shaw and I have been saying the same things for a long time! 

I definitely believe that serious, credible, and objective news is very hard to find right now when most of FOX News is in the tank for the Republican Party and when most of MSNBC is in the tank for Obama:

http://securingamerica.com/ccn/node/16713

Bush 41 not knowing he was on the air asked "Do you see our man Ailes at all?"

Submitted by Mitch Dworkin on October 6, 2008 - 7:25pm.

http://securingamerica.com/ccn/node/12031 

STUDY: Content analysis of Bill O'Reilly's rhetoric finds spin to be a 'factor'

Submitted by Mitch Dworkin on May 7, 2007 - 4:33pm.

http://securingamerica.com/ccn/node/16378

Ed Rendell said "MSNBC was the official network of the Obama campaign" & More!

Submitted by Mitch Dworkin on August 25, 2008 - 4:29am.

http://securingamerica.com/ccn/node/14942

Bill O'Reilly is right about "NBC News is leading the Obama cheerleading..."

Submitted by Mitch Dworkin on March 6, 2008 - 2:38am.

While I fully realize that every person will have their own opinion of the cable news networks, that this is definitely a very subjective judgment, and that one person's opinion is just as valid as the next person's opinion, here is a brief summary of my own thoughts and opinions of CNN, MSNBC, and FOX News:

1) CNN:  

While CNN is very far from being perfect, my opinion is that CNN is "the lesser of three evils" among the major cable news networks because they do have some truly credible journalists and they offer more news as opposed to personal opinion on an overall basis when being compared to FOX News and MSNBC!

Some journalists who I respect at CNN are Michael Ware when he reports about Iraq, John King and Bill Schneider when they report about polls, and Howard Kurtz when he criticizes the media.  Lou Dobbs does offer his opinions BUT at least he openly admits to it while hardly any other journalists on any of the networks will admit to it and he is equally tough in his criticisms of both Republicans and Democrats!

I do NOT have any respect for Jack Cafferty of CNN who mostly offers his own personal opinions as opposed to serious news and who is very blatantly in the tank for Obama.  CNN also never should have had Donna Brazile on as a so-called "undeclared superdelegate" and Roland Martin on as a so-called "objective commentator" when both of them were very clearly in the tank for Obama during the primary!

While it is nice that Jack Cafferty was recently removed from the CNN Situation Room panel of political analysts and that CNN is now openly introducing Roland Martin as being an Obama supporter before he talks, this should have been done a long time ago during the primary when they were acting as apologists for Obama in the disguise and pretense of being so-called "objective commentators."

CNN is the main cable news network that I watch.  I take seriously the journalists there who I respect while I take with a grain of salt the other journalists who I do not respect as much.

While all of these numbers are very low and fairly close, a Pew poll from August 17, 2008 shows that CNN is viewed as being more credible than NBC News, ABC News, CBS News, and FOX News:

http://people-press.org/report/?pageid=1358

August 17, 2008
Key News Audiences Now Blend Online and Traditional Sources

Media Credibility

"In 1998, for example, 42% of those who could rate CNN gave it the highest rating for credibility (four on a scale from one to four). That fell to 28% in 2006, and remains low in the current survey (30%). Credibility ratings for several other television news organizations - including the three major broadcast news outlets - also have declined since 1998. Comparable percentages say they can believe all or most of what NBC News (24%), ABC News (24%) and CBS News (22%) report (based on those who can rate those organizations).

Credibility ratings for the Fox News Channel have remained largely stable in recent years. Currently, 23% say they can believe all or most of what they hear from Fox, down slightly from 2006 and 2004 (25%)..."  

2) MSNBC:

Back in 2006, it was mainly Keith Olbermann at MSNBC who was openly trying to be the "Anti-FOX News" as I would call it:

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/11/arts/television/11keit.html

MSNBC’s Star Carves Anti-Fox Niche

By BILL CARTER
Published: July 11, 2006

"He is either the leading man of MSNBC or its leading agent provocateur, but Keith Olbermann has no problem embracing either role...

Even from that far back, he seems to have been able to honk his horn loud enough to raise hackles at Fox, which, Mr. Olbermann enthusiastically acknowledges, has been his precise intention as well as a useful marketing strategy..."

Since 2006 I definitely believe that MSNBC has moved MUCH further to the left in a blatant effort to be the "Anti-FOX News."  I would base that on their blatant pro-Obama and anti-Hillary media bias during the primary, their replacing the more conservative Tucker Carlson with David Gregory, and their replacing the more moderate Dan Abrams with the very liberal Rachel Maddow of Air America. 

Joe Scarborough in my opinion is the only non-liberal anchor at MSNBC who is not in the tank for Obama and I kind of wonder how much longer that he will last there after he has openly fought on the air with Keith Olbermann and David Shuster:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/26/joe-scarborough-vs-keith_n_121420.html

Joe Scarborough Vs. Keith Olbermann, Chris Matthews On McCain's Gains In The Polls

Huffington Post   |   August 26, 2008 10:17 AM

At the beginning of this video, Keith Olbermann said to Joe Scarborough "Jesus, Joe, why don't you get a shovel?"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGQSE8-5i7s

joe!!!!!!!!!! (2:37)

Added: August 25, 2008

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/26/msnbc-round-2-joe-scarbor_n_121478.html

MSNBC Round 2: Joe Scarborough Vs. David Shuster

Huffington Post   |   August 26, 2008 01:28 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFfErccvpWQ

Joe Scarborough vs. David Schuster  (6:54)

Added: August 27, 2008

I very strongly believe that MSNBC is mostly "The Obama Network" so I do NOT recognize it as being a serious or objective news organization.  I take most of what I see there with a grain of salt!

3) FOX News:

I cannot think of one truly objective news anchor at FOX News who is not in the tank for the Republican Party to some degree (except for Alan Colmes but he does not claim to be objective. He claims to be Sean Hannity's liberal counterpart and Hannity controls just about everything on Hannity & Colmes) so I do NOT recognize it as being a serious or objective news organization.  However I will give FOX News some credit because they do have some Democratic guests and analysts there and in my opinion they were the only major cable news network that actually did their job of trying to fully scrutinize Obama during the primary even if it may have been for their own partisan purposes!

Here are my conclusions to this post about the totally broken media system that we have right now:

1) While there were other factors, I definitely believe that Obama would never have won the nomination without so much of the media being in the tank for him and doing everything they could to hurt Hillary:

http://securingamerica.com/ccn/node/15744

VIDEO: Dan Abrams asked about Hillary's primary loss "Is it the media’s fault?"

Submitted by Mitch Dworkin on June 9, 2008 - 5:58pm.

http://securingamerica.com/ccn/node/15744#comment-309677

There is NO question in my opinion of anti-Hillary media bias...

Submitted by Mitch Dworkin on June 9, 2008 - 6:07pm.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/rich-noyes/2008/08/20/margin-victory-how-liberal-media-made-barack-obama-democratic-nominee

Margin of Victory: How the Liberal Media Made Barack Obama the Democratic Nominee

By Rich Noyes (Bio | Archive)
August 20, 2008 - 11:39 ET

This short video of Joan Walsh and Howard Kurtz shows how that the media swooned over Obama and hated Hillary:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5bab7_clinton_news (01:50)

http://www.eyeblast.tv/public/video.aspx?RsrcID=1728

The Obama Love Shack: That's Where It's At  (04:28)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpIlxKPBm9w&NR=1

Hillary Clinton Supporters, don't vote for Barack Obama  (10:48)

Added: July 17, 2008 

Lou Dobbs in my opinion also got it exactly right about the media being In The ‘Tank’ For Obama as well:

http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=161063

CNN’s Lou Dobbs: Media In The ‘Tank’ For Obama (00:28)

http://townhall.com/video/Campaign08/1450_091208Dobbs

Townhall's Matt Lewis interviews CNN's Lou Dobbs on liberal media bias  (07:34)

http://securingamerica.com/ccn/node/16130

POLLS: Much of the media are still in the tank for Obama and that is NOT right!

Submitted by Mitch Dworkin on July 22, 2008 - 6:07am.

2) I think that much of the same biased media that destroyed Hillary is also biased against Gen. Clark:

http://securingamerica.com/ccn/node/15872

The biased media that did a hit job on Hillary also did a hit job on Gen. Clark!
 
Submitted by Mitch Dworkin on June 24, 2008 - 2:38am.

3) I agree with Aaron Brown's opinion of media coverage about "Laci Peterson, the Runaway Bride or Michael Jackson" in the article below which I call "Junk-Food News:"

http://securingamerica.com/ccn/node/11261

Anna Nicole Smith, Britney Spears & "Junk-Food News" overplayed in the media!

Submitted by Mitch Dworkin on March 1, 2007 - 5:46pm.

4) If a media pundit is for a particular candidate, then "it would be nice if they came right out and said it:"

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/05/19/undeclared-super-pundits/

Undeclared Super Pundits
By John Amato Sunday May 18, 2008 9:00pm

"We've heard so much about delegates, delegates, and more delegates---declared and undeclared Super delegates for the Democratic party ad nauseam, but I wish the Village Elders of the teevee punditry class would also make a declaration if they have made a choice for the nomination and the general election. Day after day, we hear the same pundits pontificate on the ins and outs of the campaign season in such a way that you can close your eyes and know who they are supporting. I think it hurts their credibility if they are going to constantly slant their perspective to the American public. They aren't the reporters covering the stories and campaigns, but the opinionators that take the information and run with it. There's nothing wrong at all if they have a candidate they prefer, but it would be nice if they came right out and said it..."

5) Reporters who are supposed to be objective and who are not should definitely be fired in my opinion due to a conflict of interest and a lack of professionalism.  Firing biased reporters who are supposed to be objective across the board (just like how Karen Dinkins was fired in this article) will help to protect the credibility of news organizations:

http://detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081002/METRO/810020448

Thursday, October 2, 2008

Radio reporter fired over Obama T-shirt

George Hunter / The Detroit News

SOUTHFIELD -- "Longtime Metro Detroit radio reporter Karen Dinkins has been fired after wearing a pro-Barack Obama T-shirt while covering a rally for the presidential candidate Sunday at the Detroit Public Library.

Dinkins, who has worked at WWJ (950 AM) for 13 years, acknowledged that the radio station fired her Monday, but she did not elaborate.

"I don't want to comment at this time," she said.

Georgeann Herbert, WWJ's director of programming, said in a statement that Dinkins compromised the station's objectivity by wearing the T-shirt.

"(The station) believes that our credibility with our listeners rests on the independence of our newsroom staff," the statement said. "WWJ does not favor any candidate, party or issue.

"While we encourage employees to exercise their rights as citizens, we expect them to be on guard against any actual or perceived conflict of interest when covering news stories," the statement said."

6) The media should focus on a candidate's substance as opposed to just their style and the political horse race in order to help make sure that we get the best and the most qualified candidates:

http://securingamerica.com/ccn/node/12343

Howard Kurtz & Panel/Pew Poll: Media's focus on candidate style over substance!

Submitted by Mitch Dworkin on June 11, 2007 - 4:56pm.

http://pewresearch.org/pubs/489/news-coverage-first-quarter-2007

Project for Excellence in Journalism

A Quarter's Worth of News Coverage

Project for Excellence in Journalism's Analysis Finds Iraq War Coverage Mostly about the U.S., 2008 Presidential Campaign Coverage Mostly about Democrats

May 25, 2007

"Coverage of the Democratic presidential hopefuls has outstripped that of the GOP candidates by 61% to 24%. And nine out of 10 of the 2008 campaign stories have been about tactics and horse race, rather than policy or character..."

7) We very badly need to get back to Walter Cronkite's high standard of objective journalism which he talked about in this 1996 interview as opposed to the subjective journalism which Bernard Shaw condemned above when he said "My idols were Edward R. Murrow and Walter Cronkite. I don't believe people should know my personal opinions. I have strong personal opinions and they have no place in reporting the news and certainly not in reporting a presidential news:"

http://www.grandtimes.com/cronkite.html

That's The Way It Is... with Walter Cronkite

by Kira Albin, interview conducted in 1996

GT: "Journalism is presented as being objective, but some feel it's just veiled in a cloak of impartiality, and really has a hidden agenda. Do you think we're better off receiving news that's openly subjective so we can at least evaluate its credibility?

WC: No [with emphasis]. No, I don't believe that at all. We certainly have subjective columns and editorials. And what we have lost in most newspapers today, and in broadcasting and television, is the editor's column. The editor and publisher, in the old days, had a column which expressed his or her opinion of affairs. But now we've got the OpEd pages, which are serving the same function and in many ways better, because they express a variety of opinions. That's all for the good.
For the news columns themselves, they certainly should be objective and not subjective. Ten or 15 years ago there was much talk of the new journalism. The philosophy was that since nobody could be 100 percent objective, no one should even try to be objective. And we should all be subjective and tell how stories appear to us, how they affect us personally. That's a bunch of balderdash, and it faded out pretty quickly because it was obviously ridiculous. We must be given the facts so we can make our own judgments, and these facts should not be colored by people's personal opinions.

GT: But don't you think that journalists' personal opinions do come into play?

WC: The mark of a professional journalist is that we do adhere to an ethic. A professional journalist recognizes his or her prejudices and biases and avoids them in writing and reporting. There's no place in journalism for biased reporting on the front page. There is no place for subjective, personal opinions to creep in...

GT: How do you want to be remembered?

WC: [laughs] Oh, as a fellow who did his best. I'd like to be remembered as a person who tried to give the news as impartially, as factually, as possible, and succeeded most of the time..."

8) To accomplish the goal of getting back the objective journalism of Walter Cronkite, I agree with Aaron Brown's advice in the article below when he said "It's not enough to say you want serious news. You have to watch it. It isn't enough to say you want serious debate. You have to engage in it:"

"Journalists have fallen short in presenting important news in ways that allow viewers to see how it matters in their lives. But viewers must take up the battle as well, he said. "It's not enough to say you want serious news. You have to watch it. It isn't enough to say you want serious debate. You have to engage in it."

My conclusion is that the state of the media and serious journalism are completely broken right now.  Aaron Brown and Bernard Shaw can mention what the problem is and Walter Cronkite can mention what the ideal should be BUT enough people have to realize it and then decide to do something about it so that one day it will be fixed. 

I am tired of watching biased media pundits where I already know what they will say before they even say it.  The only kind of thinking that requires is cutting through their spin in order to get to the truth!  

Mitch Dworkin

http://www.securingamerica.com/

http://securingamerica.com/ccn/node/16039
RESOURCES: Speeches, Articles, and Career Highlights to help define Gen. Clark!
Submitted by Mitch Dworkin on July 7, 2008 - 2:51pm.

http://securingamerica.com/ccn/node/10756
StopIranWar.com: "War is not the answer"
Submitted by Wes Clark on February 21, 2007 - 11:40am.

http://www.securingamerica.com/ccn/node/7191
Listen to Gen. Wes Clark fight for Dems on Sean Hannity's radio program: An excellent example for all of us to follow and what we all need to be doing to help fight back against extreme right wing Neocon smear propaganda!

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http://www.palmbeachdailynews.com/news/content/news/brown0126.html 

Broadcaster says serious news at risk

By JAN SJOSTROM , Daily News Arts Editor
Thursday, January 26, 2006


Jeffrey Langlois
(enlarge photo)

Former CNN 'NewsNight' anchor Aaron Brown said important issues, such as the war in Iraq, are being clouded over by 'mud-wrestling' that skirts substance. Brown spoke Tuesday at The Society of the Four Arts.  

The anchorman whose boss once characterized him as ice compared with his successor's fire was anything but chilly in the impassioned speech he delivered Tuesday at The Society of the Four Arts.

"Truth no longer matters in the context of politics and, sadly, in the context of cable news," said Aaron Brown, whose four-year period as anchor of CNN's NewsNight ended in November, when network executives gave his job to Anderson Cooper in a bid to push the show's ratings closer to front-runner Fox News.

Brown said he tried to give viewers a balanced diet of light and serious news with NewsNight. "But I always knew when I got to the Brussels sprouts, I was on thin ice," he said.

When NewsNight spent four hours covering the arrest of actor Robert Blake for the murder of his wife, Brown received thousands of e-mails criticizing the amount of time the show spent on the story. Nevertheless, that show, which aired in April 2002, received the highest ratings of any program since NewsNight's coverage of the November 2001 crash of American Airlines flight 587.

"Television is the most perfect democracy," Brown said. "You sit there with your remote control and vote." The remotes click to another channel when serious news airs, but when the media covers the scandals surrounding Laci Peterson, the Runaway Bride or Michael Jackson, "there are no clicks then," the journalist said.

With the departure from the screen of the "titans" — Tom Brokaw, Peter Jennings and Dan Rather — who "resisted the temptations of their bosses to go for the ratings grab, it will be years before an anchorman or anchorwoman will have the clout to fight these battles," he said.

Brown has spent most of his 30-year career in television news. He's covered everything from the Columbine High School murders to the aftermath of the space shuttle Columbia disaster. But viewers may remember best his on-the-spot coverage of the terrorist attack on the World Trade Center.

He's shocked "by how unkind our world has become," he said. E-mail and talk radio appear to have given people the license to say anything, regardless of how cruel or false it may be, he said.

He cited the example of an e-mail faulting what the sender considered to be NewsNight's inadequate coverage of an anti-war protest in Washington, D.C. The note ended with, "I hope the violence visited on the people of Iraq will someday be visited on your children."

Those on the opposite side of the political spectrum are no more tolerant, Brown said. "Any criticism of the administration is regarded as hatred of the president and hatred of the country itself," he said.

Important issues, such as the prosecution of the war in Iraq at home and abroad, are being clouded over by "mud-wrestling" that skirts substance, he said. Consider what he called "the swift-boating of John Murtha," the Democratic congressman whose war record was smeared when he called for an exit strategy in Iraq. "Cable didn't search for the truth, but engaged in mock debates pitting those making the charges against Murtha's defenders," he said.

Many Americans on the left and the right aren't interested in the truth, but simply want news that confirms their viewpoints, he said. "You'd think that it's no more complex than good vs. evil," he said.

Journalists have fallen short in presenting important news in ways that allow viewers to see how it matters in their lives. But viewers must take up the battle as well, he said. "It's not enough to say you want serious news. You have to watch it. It isn't enough to say you want serious debate. You have to engage in it."


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Submitted by Mitch Dworkin on October 12, 2008 - 8:28am.

objectivity, credibility, and more truth back to the media and journalism in my opinion!

I have argued the need for bringing back the Fairness Doctrine and fighting back against Rush Limbaugh's huge talk radio media empire for years. Gen. Clark also agrees with that:

http://securingamerica.com/ccn/node/16333

VIDEO: Dan Abrams showed how Rush Limbaugh can be a liability to GOP candidates!

Submitted by Mitch Dworkin on August 18, 2008 - 4:15am.

http://securingamerica.com/ccn/node/13497

ANALYSIS: Why Rush Limbaugh is especially vulnerable to attack right now!

Submitted by Mitch Dworkin on October 2, 2007 - 9:44am.

http://securingamerica.com/ccn/node/12971

Bush met with 10 Neocon talk radio hosts and in private with Rush Limbaugh!

Submitted by Mitch Dworkin on August 9, 2007 - 3:28am.

http://securingamerica.com/ccn/node/12446

Center for American Progress: "The Structural Imbalance of Political Talk Radio"

Submitted by Mitch Dworkin on June 21, 2007 - 1:41pm.

http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2007/06/talk_radio.html

The Structural Imbalance of Political Talk Radio

http://securingamerica.com/ccn/node/11762

Keith Olbermann asks good questions about Imus leading to the Fairness Doctrine!

Submitted by Mitch Dworkin on April 13, 2007 - 4:35pm.

http://securingamerica.com/ccn/node/11479

ZOGBY: 83% of voters think that the media is biased; Democrats seem to be losing

Submitted by Mitch Dworkin on March 16, 2007 - 1:25pm.

http://securingamerica.com/ccn/node/10583

Limbaugh & Hannity react to Democrats trying to bring back the Fairness Doctrine

Submitted by Mitch Dworkin on January 18, 2007 - 2:51pm.

http://securingamerica.com/ccn/node/9122

DOCUMENTATION & ANALYSIS: Bush met with Sean Hannity & Media to Firm Up Support!

Submitted by Mitch Dworkin on October 19, 2006 - 7:59am.

http://securingamerica.com/ccn/node/7735

ANALYSIS & DOCUMENTATION: PEW stats on Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'Reilly & the Media!

Submitted by Mitch Dworkin on August 1, 2006 - 3:29am.

http://securingamerica.com/ccn/node/7191

Listen to Wes Clark fight for Dems on Hannity

Submitted by larry on June 22, 2006 - 7:57pm.

http://www.rapidfire-silverbullets.com/2006/12/wes_clarks_feeling_on_media_co.html

Wes Clark's feeling on Media Consolidation

"We need to distribute the ownership in media. We need to have the fairness in broadcasting rules put back in place."

Submitted by Mitch Dworkin on October 12, 2008 - 8:50am.

Here is the link to the Washington Post article that Lou Dobbs referenced in the CNN transcript below:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/15/AR2008081503100.html

Obama's Edge in the Coverage Race

By Deborah Howell
Sunday, August 17, 2008; Page B06

"Democrat Barack Obama has had about a 3 to 1 advantage over Republican John McCain in Post Page 1 stories since Obama became his party's presumptive nominee June 4. Obama has generated a lot of news by being the first African American nominee, and he is less well known than McCain -- and therefore there's more to report on. But the disparity is so wide that it doesn't look good..."

I was really glad to see Lou Dobbs bring up this very important topic as bluntly as he did:

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0808/24/ldtw.01.html

LOU DOBBS THIS WEEK

Barack's Battle; Personal Attacks; Democracy at Risk; Food Contamination Solution

Aired August 24, 2008 - 19:00 ET

LOU DOBBS, CNN ANCHOR: "And the national media in the tank for Senator Obama just about all the way. Well the race is still a dead heat despite all of that. I'll be talking with the best political analysts in the country.

Stay with us...

LOU DOBBS, CNN HOST: Joining me now three of the best political analysts and CNN contributors in the country, in our D.C. bureau is syndicated columnist Diana West. Diana, good to have you with us. Here in New York with me, syndicated columnist Miguel Perez. Miguel, welcome. And democratic strategist Hank Sheinkopf...

DOBBS: You know, it's really not working because the fact is we have a tied race here. You know, with all the national media, as I've been saying here for months, in the tanks. My colleagues in the national media are absolutely biased, in the tank supporting the Obama candidacy while claiming the mantle of objectivity. Whether they're in the front page of "The Washington Post," "The New York Times," whether it's any one of the news casts, I mean, it's ridiculous.

Now we have a situation where everything is tied up here, Diana. Is it possible, however, for Senator McCain to actually gain a significant lead here?

DIANA WEST, CNN CONTRIBUTOR: Well, I think it is possible. I mean, it's really, it's really hard to say exactly how these things are going, but this kind of superficial attack from the Obama campaign is not helping him at all. You have to remember that this particular attack came within 24 hours of another Obama ad that was trying to link McCain to Ralph Reed, to the convicted lobbyist Jack Abramoff.

DOBBS: They have 527s. They've got 527s all over the town -

WEST: Exactly, and the McCain campaign came back with another huge response talking about if you want to play guilt by association, let's talk some more about former weatherman -

DOBBS: What happened to the post partisan lofty elevated discourse we're going to have, Miguel?

MIGUEL PEREZ, SYNDICATED COLUMNIST: I'm still waiting for it, unfortunately.

WEST: But who wants it?

PEREZ: Look, what the media has failed at here is putting pressure on Obama, especially, because McCain wanted to do those meetings together with Obama, those public forums.

DOBBS: The town hall meetings.

PEREZ: Yes, and Obama has really evaded the issue and the media has not been after him for it. And I think that's disgraceful.

DOBBS: Well, I think the way the national media in this country right is performing, is disgraceful. And I mean, when we - "The Washington Post" had the courage to admit that it - Deborah Howell, the public editor, the ombudsman for the "Washington Post" ran a piece this past Sunday acknowledging that "The Washington Post" has put Barack Obama on the front pages of the Washington Post three times as many times as Senator McCain. "Time" magazine has run seven covers with Obama. McCain two. I mean, this is not close, folks. And it is ugly. It is nasty. And I guarantee you, we are watching a shift in the way in which the media in this country, which is already reviled by the public, I believe it's going to be even worse.

I'm an advocacy journalist. I'm an independent populist. When I speak, people know where I'm coming from. When these news organizations are doing this and trying to pretend cloaking themselves in the mantle of objectivity, you know, they're silly, (trulish), absolutely in my opinion, despicable phonies. They need to step out, they need to be objective or get their opinions out where it can be examined. We're going to be right back. Next, Hank Sheinkopf. He'll tell us about what he thinks of media bias. We'll be right back.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

DOBBS: Well, we're back and I want to take a look at the "Time" magazine cover. Seven times, seven times in the past year, Barack Obama has been placed on the cover of "Time" magazine. Now, John McCain twice. Hank Sheinkopf, that is rather typical of the inundation of affection, the inundation of Barack Obama with the affection of the national media. What is your reaction as a democratic strategist?

HANK SHEINKOPF, DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIST: Good for democrats, not so good for the nation in the long term. Barack Obama is interesting, he's new, therefore he is news. OK. The fact that a black man can reach that pinnacle of success, raise the amount of money, run this kind of organization, beat Hillary Clinton is big news. At some point there has to be some fairness in the discussion. The problem here from the beginning is from day Obama showed up, I was wondering when the reporters will start chiseling his face on to Mt. Rushmore and the guy hadn't even won the nomination yet. That's the danger here, Lou. And people know it and they're not stupid. Average guy says wait a second, I want news and he isn't getting it.

DOBBS: He's not getting it. He's not getting it for a lot of reasons, and she's not getting it. We're not getting it, because budgets have been cut by corporate, main stream media. We have fewer people making any point of fact, in many cases, making less money to do even bigger job in a more complex society. Miguel, your reaction?

PEREZ: Oh, look, in reaction to what both of you are saying, and what Hank just said about what's new. I went to journalism school. I teach journalism. You have to put aside what's new in terms of, when it comes to fairness. And when you're covering an election, you definitely have to be fair to both sides. And what's new is not a valid argument for the media. So you know, as a member of the media, I can tell you it's wrong to be doing that, you know, absolutely wrong.

DOBBS: I mean, I've said for some time, Diana West, that I believe, because I issue from time to time, like you, a few strong opinions. But as I say, everyone knows where I come from and I'm making no bones about what I'm doing. I'm an advocacy journalist. But I truly believe, Diana West, that every - I like you all to think about this, maybe every reporter on television, every editor, every reporter in the newspapers and magazines and on the web, there ought to be a little identification like we put on the lower third of the screen for an elected official, D or republican from Iowa or Des Moines or whatever, put that under there, we're journalist, declare yourself.

PEREZ: That's why newspapers have an opinion page.

DOBBS: Right.

PEREZ: It should be, opinions should be left to that page, not to the front page.

DOBBS: Right. Well, you and I know that..."

Submitted by Tega on October 12, 2008 - 5:42pm.

That will really blow people away. They think the media is biased towards Obama now...TAKE A LOOK BACK DURING THE PRIMARIES! Since January, CM & KO attacked HIllary almost every show and praised BO like he was the next Messiah. It was like free air-time for BO with loads of pro-Obama/anti-Clinton coverage. Talk about propaganda. KO is so critical of Fox yet he seems to be doing the same thing - slanting his coverage towards one candidate (BO). I can't even watch/listen to KO. He seems so darn obnoxious.

Add BO's surrogates/"political experts" to all the shows and it was an incredible inbalance. For example - the coverage of the Feb 5th (I believe it was that election date) primaries had 9 "political experts" behind the laptops on CNN. 1 (Paul Begala) was pro-Hillary. It's amazing that she did as well as she did. She won the popular vote and had her votes squashed in MI & FL. I believe a lot had to do with the networks trying to draw the young vote (THEIR FUTURE VIEWERS) to their networks.

IMO - If the media did unbiased reporting, Hillary would have a huge lead in the general election right now and America would have someone who cold get us out of this hell hole. Add Wes Clark to Hillary's Administration and we're on our way UP!

Submitted by Mitch Dworkin on October 15, 2008 - 7:30am.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0810/14/ldt.01.html

LOU DOBBS TONIGHT

McCain Ridicules Obama's Economic Policies; ACORN Tries to Register Mickey Mouse; Cover-Up by Top Democrats?

Aired October 14, 2008 - 19:00 ET

LOU DOBBS, HOST: DOBBS: "And one of the difficulties compounding McCain's position, which has been in my opinion an often hapless campaign, is now he's got a media that's just been for his -- that has been in the tank for his opponent throughout the past year. Right now it's very difficult to break through the noise and find any comfort, if you will, from any quarter of the national media no matter what. So I mean I don't know what we're going to see tomorrow, but if it's more of the same, somebody's going to be pulling their hair out, I would think..."

Submitted by Tega on October 15, 2008 - 6:21pm.

The media has been so blatantly obvious "in the tank" for Obama since January. There should be something illegal when the media basically campaigns for a candidate. The propaganda for BO has been disgusting.

I'm so sick of KO, CM, & RM. They have learned from FOX and have taken it to a new level.

Submitted by Mitch Dworkin on October 12, 2008 - 9:47am.

which is NOT a healthy thing in my opinion!

I think that Michael Medved, who called this unprofessional behavior "healthy" in the CNN transcript below, is dead wrong but unfortunately that is what he is expected to say because he is a biased extreme right wing talk radio show host. This blatant admission of media bias is definitely a very big reason why I think that we need to bring back The Fairness Doctrine as soon as possible:

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0809/21/rs.01.html

CNN RELIABLE SOURCES

The Media and the Meltdown

Aired September 21, 2008 - 10:00 ET

HOWARD KURTZ, HOST: "When Charlie Gibson sat down with Sarah Palin, it was a much-anticipated showdown between journalist and VP candidate. When Sean Hannity sat down with the Alaska governor this week, it was a very different atmosphere. Take a look.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

SEAN HANNITY, CO-HOST, FOX NEWS CHANNEL'S "HANNITY & COLMES": Has Senator Obama been using what happened on Wall Street this week, is using it for political gain?

GOV. SARAH PALIN (R-AK), VICE-PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE: Well, there's a danger in allowing some obsessive partisanship to get into the issue that we're talking about today.

HANNITY: Why does everyone benefit if the rich pays less or if everybody pays less in taxes?

How did you take on your own party specifically? And do you think you'd be able to do that as well in Washington?

Do you see media bias in this campaign?

(END VIDEO CLIP)

KURTZ: Paul Krugman, obviously, Hannity is going to do a friendly interview, but shouldn't he have asked a couple of tough questions, just to show he's not in the tank here?

PAUL KRUGMAN, COLUMNIST, "THE NEW YORK TIMES": Who's he going to fool? He is in the tank. So what are you going to do?

I mean, this has -- this has been a problem. We do have -- can I say this? FOX News is an arm of the conservative coalition, pretending to be a media organization.

KURTZ: Well, on the other hand, Michael Medved, we played on the program last week Keith Olbermann doing an extremely friendly interview with Barack Obama. So are we now in a media world where partisans are kind of coddling their own candidates, particularly on networks like FOX and MSNBC?

MICHAEL MEDVED, HOST, SALEM RADIO NETWORK'S "THE MICHAEL MEDVED SHOW": Absolutely, and I think it's healthy, frankly. I mean, everybody knows where Sean Hannity is coming from. Sean does a daily talk show, as I do, and he does three hours a day of his opinion. So you know where he's coming from.

I think people increasingly know where Chris Matthews and Keith Olbermann are coming from on MSNBC. And what that creates is a wonderful opportunity for you guys on CNN to be the network that tries to play it up the middle.

KURTZ: Why do you say it's healthy?

MEDVED: Because it seems to me everybody has biases. Professor Krugman acknowledges his bias, as I acknowledge mine. And I think that it would have been a better interview if Charlie Gibson, with some of his questioning, had acknowledged that he was coming from a deliberately adversarial place in some of the questioning.

It's normal in the media for people to have values and biases and outlooks. Why not acknowledge them?

KURTZ: All right. Well, I would just add that being adversarial or tough doesn't necessarily mean that you are biased..."

Also, both Sean Hannity being "in the tank" and giving Sarah Palin "a friendly interview" and Keith Olbermann being "in the tank" and giving Barack Obama "a friendly interview" are NOT healthy either. No serious candidate for President or Vice President should ever be getting "a friendly interview" from a journalist who is "in the tank" for them. That is how you elect candidates with a lack of serious vetting and with a lack of real accountability!

Submitted by Tega on October 15, 2008 - 6:22pm.

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Submitted by Stan4Clark on October 12, 2008 - 9:26am.

We need to have a law requiring media outlets, both print and electronic, to label their articles, segments, and shows. If it's good for food for the body, it must be good for food for the mind. They should clearly be labeled either "News" or "Opinion." If it's "Opinion," the label should specifiy whose opinion it is.

CNN, MSNBC, and even Fox do a pretty good job of covering hard news, especially in their morning shows. They deteriorate in the afternoons and evenings. But even there, while they do well with "what," "when," and "where," they enter dangerous territory with "why" and "how."

 

Stan Davis
Lakewood, CO
"We're no better than our own sense of humility."


Submitted by Mitch Dworkin on October 12, 2008 - 9:50am.

That sounds like a very good idea to me and it would be a great start to fixing the broken media system in my opinion!

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Submitted by hf jai on October 23, 2008 - 3:41pm.

Would you trust the media people to do it? Didn't think so.

But if not them, then who? I don't think I'd trust a government agency to do it either. Especially not in light of what the Bushies have done to federal agencies like DoJ.

People just have to be smart enough to judge for themselves.

LOL -- like that's gonna happen.


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Submitted by Stan4Clark on October 24, 2008 - 2:42am.

You, me, MS, Shortie, Dorma...and a group of selected Clarkies, including, of course, Mitch as chair.

 

Stan Davis
Lakewood, CO
Wes Clark: "We're no better than our own sense of humility."


Submitted by Mitch Dworkin on October 13, 2008 - 12:21pm.

and Roger Simon told him "Well, you are correct."

This is a very big reason why I definitely believe that serious journalism and the media system are broken right now and it is also a major reason why candidates do NOT get properly vetted by the media:

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0810/12/rs.01.html

CNN RELIABLE SOURCES

Observing the Media in America

Aired October 12, 2008 - 10:00 ET

HOWARD KURTZ, HOST: KURTZ: "Well, we'll get into the debate structure in a moment.

But Roger Simon, I mean, this was a substantive debate, primarily about the economy, the issue that everyone agrees we all care about, especially now. And I'm just getting the impression that journalists don't care very much about the substance, and they're interested in the tactics and the one-liners and the zingers and all that.

ROGER SIMON, POLITICO.COM: Well, you are correct.

KURTZ: You're supposed to talk me down.

SIMON: These are the most theatrical part of the campaign. The candidates rehearse, and they tell people, we're going down for a week to rehearse. And they have mock stages and they have scripts with the issues called issued books, and their task is to regurgitate on stage, to give their lines.

The press doesn't like that. We've heard their lines. We've heard their lines for 19 months.

We want combat. We want them to mix it up. So when we get to a debate that is supposed to be drama and it's not dramatic, like any audience we say, we were cheated, we were robbed, we paid for these tickets. Where's the drama?

KURTZ: I thought you got in for free..."

Submitted by Mitch Dworkin on October 14, 2008 - 4:55pm.

in the Washington Post article below! 

While this is really nice to see, it is absolutely ridiculous in my opinion that an article actually has to written saying "But there ought not to be any moratorium on asking hard questions of both candidates right now, and especially of the Democratic nominee who sits in the pole position heading into the final three weeks" when this SHOULD BE the standard practice of serious journalists and the news media:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/10/13/questioning_obama.html

Dan Balz's Take

Questioning Obama


Sen. Barack Obama canvasses a neighborhood Oct. 12, 2008, in Holland, Ohio. (Joe Raedle/Getty Images)

By Dan Balz

For the past two weeks, the focus of the presidential campaign has been on John McCain. Given the state of the race, it may well stay there for a while. What can McCain do? Should he attack more? Should he go all positive? Can he come back?

With 22 days left in the race, that's understandable. McCain is the focus because what was thought to be a close race doesn't look like one at this moment. Which is all the more reason that the real focus now ought to be on Barack Obama.

The Illinois senator has been the political beneficiary of one of the worst months of economic news in the country's history. Since the fall of Lehman Brothers, Obama has expanded his lead and solidified his position in the presidential race.

He leads nationally in the latest Washington Post-ABC News poll by 53 percent to 43 percent. He leads, too, by a wide margin in estimates of the Electoral College. Virtually all of the closest states left at this point voted for President Bush four years ago.

The presidential race is not over, but at this point, Obama has a better chance of becoming president than McCain, and as a result, the questions ought to be going toward him as much or more than McCain -- questions not of tactics but of substance.

Obama has dealt deftly with the economic crisis -- at least in a political sense. Unlike McCain, he was fairly calm during the first days after Lehman's collapse and the government bailout of AIG.

He stayed in close contact with Henry Paulson and Ben Bernanke and with Democratic congressional leaders. He both embraced the sense of urgency to act on the $700 billion bailout package and offered criticisms of the administration's initially sketchy plan. His criticisms were in line with changes that Congress made before eventually approving the package.

But it's not clear that he has had any better ideas -- or put them forward more aggressively -- than Paulson and Bernanke when it comes to dealing with the crisis in the credit markets. It's not clear that he has pushed ideas that would have dealt with the crisis more effectively. At every turn, he has voiced support for the general course the administration has outlined, but he's not been far out ahead.

Nor is it evident that he has dealt realistically with the impact the economic crisis may have on the next president. He has not backed away from ambitious plans for a second stimulus package, for dramatically expanding health care, for reducing dependence on foreign oil or for other spending plans that long have been part of his campaign agenda.

Changing circumstances have not changed his view of what can or should be done if he becomes president. It would be helpful to voters to know now, rather than after the election, whether he will take a zero-based look at everything and rearrange priorities.

It is hard to think of a new president who inherited such a rapidly altered landscape. Franklin Roosevelt inherited a country in crisis, but the crash on Wall Street began years before he was elected in 1932. The 44th president's world has been turned upside down in a matter of months, and literally on the eve of the election.

How adaptable is Obama to all of this? How willing is he to address these questions in real time, as opposed to later? How much time has he given recently to rethinking the scope and ambition of a possible Obama administration? Would he come to office with a determination to be bold or to be cautious? Is he the pragmatist that allies have suggested -- or committed to a more ideologically oriented agenda, as his critics say?

Other questions that ought to be raised include what his commitment to bipartisanship amounts to at this point. He has talked about turning the page on old politics throughout his campaign. What does that mean?

All hard-fought campaigns become more partisan toward the end, but how much would that color Obama's approach, should he end up in the Oval Office? Will he hew closely to the wishes of Democratic congressional leaders or will he demonstrate some independence from them in an effort show the country what he might to do create a broader coalition as president? Will he do anything before the election to signal what he thinks?

McCain has begun this week with a fresh stump speech, a "fighting McCain" persona and the determination of an underdog, which is always where he is most comfortable. Speaking in Virginia Beach on Monday morning, he said with a smile:

"We have 22 days to go. We're 6 points down. The national media has written us off. Senator Obama is measuring the drapes, and planning with Speaker Pelosi and Senator Reid to raise taxes, increase spending, take away your right to vote by secret ballot in labor elections, and concede defeat in Iraq. But they forgot to let you decide. My friends, we've got them just where we want them."

His criticisms of Obama were not personal, as they've sometimes been in the past week, but substantive. He hopes to claw his way back into the race and he hopes that the polls could tighten as Election Day nears, and that, if that happens, the voters will take yet another look at their choices.

McCain has been criticized for raising questions about Obama that were seen as questioning his patriotism or his commitment to the values the country holds dear. But there ought not to be any moratorium on asking hard questions of both candidates right now, and especially of the Democratic nominee who sits in the pole position heading into the final three weeks.

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Submitted by Mitch Dworkin on October 15, 2008 - 7:37am.

two times so you know up front what his show is about:

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0810/14/ldt.01.html

LOU DOBBS TONIGHT

McCain Ridicules Obama's Economic Policies; ACORN Tries to Register Mickey Mouse; Cover-Up by Top Democrats?

Aired October 14, 2008 - 19:00 ET

ANNOUNCER: "This is LOU DOBBS TONIGHT; news, debate and opinion for Tuesday, October 14th. Live from New York, Lou Dobbs...

ANNOUNCER: This is LOU DOBBS TONIGHT; news, debate and opinion. Here again, Mr. Independent, Lou Dobbs..."

It would be really nice in my opinion if other media pundits who are expressing their own personal opinions would also make the same type of disclaimer for their shows!

Submitted by Mitch Dworkin on October 15, 2008 - 8:55am.

like this where NEITHER of them are objective or believable in my very strong opinion:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27188346/

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/27188417#27188417  (03:16)

Olbermann: McCain, suspend your campaign

October 14, 2008: In a brief Special Comment, Keith Olbermann expresses his disapproval of the McCain/Palin campaign’s “lynch-mob mentality” and their refusal to discourage surrogates and supporters from threatening Barack Obama at GOP campaign rallies. Full story

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27188346/

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/27188417#27188417  (03:16)

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http://www.foxnews.com/hannitysamerica/

FOXNEWS.COM HOME > HANNITY'S AMERICA


FNC

Campaign Connections

October 13, 2008: Does Obama's relationship with Bill Ayers signify a lack of judgment? The 'Hannity's America' panel debates

Videos
Part 2: National Defense 

http://www.foxnews.com/video2/video08.html?maven_referralObject=3150759&maven_referralPlaylistId=&sRevUrl=http://www.foxnews.com/hannitysamerica/  (06:15)

Part 3: Candidates' Tax Plans 

http://www.foxnews.com/video2/video08.html?maven_referralObject=3150772&maven_referralPlaylistId=&sRevUrl=http://www.foxnews.com/hannitysamerica/  (06:15)

These two partisan wrongs do NOT equal one right, they only make the problem of "serious news at risk" even worse than it already is in my opinion.  I do NOT recognize either one of those false choices above as being objective or credible news stories!

Submitted by Mitch Dworkin on October 18, 2008 - 4:40am.

because they both have opinionated and partisan agendas.  Most of FOX News is very clearly in the tank for the Republican Party while most MSNBC is very clearly in the tank for Obama so neither of them are objectively reporting this story in my opinion.  That is why I take both FOX News and MSNBC with a grain of salt and this is a big reason why I think that serious news and most of the media are in a broken condition right now!

FOX News has already judged ACORN and Obama as being guilty while MSNBC has already judged ACORN and Obama as being innocent so those biased opinions are very clearly reflected in their so-called "news" in these FOX News and MSNBC videos:

http://www.foxnews.com/hannitysamerica/

HANNITY'S AMERICA Features

http://www.foxnews.com/video2/video08.html?maven_referralObject=3136297&maven_referralPlaylistId=&sRevUrl=http://www.foxnews.com/hannitysamerica/  (06:19)



Obama & Friends: History of Radicalism

Video: ACORN

ACORN Association

October 6, 2008: What ties does Barack Obama have to one of the largest radical groups in America?

http://www.foxnews.com/video2/video08.html?maven_referralObject=3136297&maven_referralPlaylistId=&sRevUrl=http://www.foxnews.com/hannitysamerica/  (06:19)

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http://www.foxnews.com/video2/video08.html?maven_referralObject=3151407&maven_referralPlaylistId=&sRevUrl=http://www.foxnews.com/americasnewsroom/index.html  (03:08)



ACORN Hearings

October 14, 2008: Ohio county officials look into alleged voter registration fraud

http://www.foxnews.com/video2/video08.html?maven_referralObject=3151407&maven_referralPlaylistId=&sRevUrl=http://www.foxnews.com/americasnewsroom/index.html  (03:08)

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http://www.foxnews.com/foxfriends/index.html

http://www.foxnews.com/video2/video08.html?maven_referralObject=3152572&maven_referralPlaylistId=&sRevUrl=http://www.foxnews.com/foxfriends/index.html  (03:11)



Truth2Power

October 15, 2008: Former ACORN organizer forms group aimed at reforming embattled organization

http://www.foxnews.com/video2/video08.html?maven_referralObject=3152572&maven_referralPlaylistId=&sRevUrl=http://www.foxnews.com/foxfriends/index.html  (03:11)

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/

Countdown Video:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/27188343#27188343  (07:12)


Will ACORN story take root for McCain?
Oct. 14: Allen Raymond interview.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/27188343#27188343  (07:12)

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/

Rachel Maddow Video:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/27189112#27189112  (09:17)


The ACORN attack
Oct. 14: Jonathan Alter interview.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/27189112#27189112  (09:17)

Submitted by Mitch Dworkin on October 17, 2008 - 1:48am.

is right about Bill O'Reilly.  This is a sad thing and it shows how that serious journalism is broken right now in my opinion:

http://www.eyeblast.tv/public/video.aspx?RsrcID=36016

Tim Graham: NBC Coverage Is 'Just Embarrassing'  (4:54)

Posted: September 19, 2008
Posted By: ken.shepherd
Views: 97  |  Network: FNC

"Throughout the long primary campaign, NBC was just embarrassing," Media Research Center Director of Media Analysis Tim Graham told Bill O'Reilly in an "O'Reilly Factor" segment.

http://www.eyeblast.tv/public/video.aspx?RsrcID=36016

http://securingamerica.com/ccn/node/10403

Joe Scarborough challenges Bill O'Reilly to debate, KO to Bill-O: "come on down"

Submitted by Mitch Dworkin on January 8, 2007 - 2:55pm.

Submitted by Mitch Dworkin on October 20, 2008 - 3:58am.

I think that this is a symptom of most of the mainstream media being in the tank for Obama and of their NOT holding him fully accountable for what he does:

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0810/19/rs.01.html

CNN RELIABLE SOURCES

Analysis of Third Presidential Debate

Aired October 19, 2008 - 10:00   ET

HOWARD KURTZ, HOST: "Mark Halperin, we learned this morning that Barack Obama in the month of September raised $150 million, the early estimates had been about $100 million. They always kind of leak a lower figure so they can exceed it.

If a Republican had not taken public financing and had raised all that money, and the Democrat was struggling financially, wouldn't we see a lot of stories about one candidate essentially trying to buy the election?

MARK HALPERIN, SR. POLITCAN ANALAYST, "TIME": We would. We'd also see a lot of stories about his going back on his word saying that he would accept the public money and would reach out to Senator McCain to try to work out a deal. So I think this is a case of a clear, unambiguous double standard, and any reporter who doesn't ask themselves, why is that, why would it be different if it's a Republican? I think is doing themselves and our profession and our democracy a disservice.

KURTZ: I think that's an excellent point, and that's the point we're going to end on..."

Submitted by Mitch Dworkin on October 23, 2008 - 4:18am.

about what they are reporting on which I thought was very professional on his part!

Lou Dobbs caught himself asking a reporter an opinion question about the story that she was reporting on at the end of this transcript and he apologized for doing that:

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0809/24/ldt.01.html

LOU DOBBS TONIGHT

Senator McCain Suspends his Campaign Temporarily; Obama Rejects McCain's Challenge; FBI's Criminal Probe; Is E-Verify Dead?

Aired September 24, 2008 - 19:00 ET

LOU DOBBS, CNN ANCHOR: "Let's go to Brianna Keilar on Capitol Hill. She has the latest for us -- Brianna.

BRIANNA KEILAR, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, Lou, we've just learned exclusively that in just a short time House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and House Minority Leader John Boehner (ph) will release a statement that says -- a joint statement that says they have made progress, that they have come to agreement on key issues and that they will continue to work towards agreement on this bailout proposal.

It was really late this morning that we first started to see Republicans and Democrats gaining some common ground in their negotiations. A key breakthrough having to do with Democrats demand that CEOs not be given golden parachutes or hefty salaries if their corporations are bailed out by government money.

Well Republican leaders in House and the Senate last night and this morning agreed with that, and then this afternoon we saw Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson signaling that the White House would capitulate on this issue of golden parachutes and hefty salaries for these CEOs.

We're now expecting Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid to be making a statement shortly, along with Senate Banking Committee Chairman Christopher Dodd. We're expecting Reid to basically tell John McCain that really what he said to John McCain on the phone, which is that he said it wouldn't be helpful for John McCain to come to Washington at this point.

Obviously, Lou, some political maneuvering going on here because we saw Democrats for the past couple of days, they've actually been calling on John McCain to take a stand on this, saying that if John McCain did not support this bailout, there would be a loss of Republican votes and Democrats said they weren't going to be carrying this thing on their own.

We have also seen a number of statements coming out from Republicans in the Senate and the House basically commending John McCain for making this move, coming back for Washington, saying that he's taking an active and even presidential role here, Lou.

DOBBS: Well, isn't that an act of hubris on the part of the Senate majority leader to suggest that a man who has at least at this point, a 50/50 possibility of being president of the United States in a few months should not be engaged in this issue? Well you can't answer that. And I apologize.

KEILAR: Well, Lou...

DOBBS: I put you in a position of opinion. I don't mean to do that. But I just find it amazing, partisan politics dominating this issue and people defining it as an issue that should be resolved in a certain way without understanding its shape, its cost, its impact. It is really Washington nonsense at its height, in my opinion. Brianna Keilar, thank you very much for being with us..."

Submitted by Mitch Dworkin on October 23, 2008 - 2:09pm.

being held to the same journalistic standard on Morning Joe:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MNmswO7AFs

Dan Rather: " if Sarah Palin had said this" (2:37)

Added: October 21, 2008

I am definitely NOT a fan of Sarah Palin and I do NOT think that she is qualified to be VP BUT I think that the media should cover Biden by the same standards that they cover Palin in order to be professional and to be fair!

Submitted by Mitch Dworkin on October 30, 2008 - 8:32am.

http://www.journalism.org/node/13436

The Color of News

October 29, 2008

How Different Media Have Covered the General Election

"When it comes to coverage of the campaign for president 2008, where one goes for news makes a difference, according to a new study.

In cable, the evidence firmly suggests there now really is an ideological divide between two of the three channels, at least in their coverage of the campaign.

Things look much better for Barack Obama—and much worse for John McCain—on MSNBC than in most other news outlets. On the Fox News Channel, the coverage of the presidential candidates is something of a mirror image of that seen on MSNBC.

The tone of CNN’s coverage, meanwhile, lay somewhere in the middle of the cable spectrum, and was generally more negative than the press overall..."

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