Wes Clark NYT Op-Ed


August 8, 2007
Op-Ed Contributors
Why Terrorists Aren’t Soldiers
By WESLEY K. CLARK and KAL RAUSTIALA

THE line between soldier and civilian has long been central to the law of war. Today that line is being blurred in the struggle against transnational terrorists. Since 9/11 the Bush administration has sought to categorize members of Al Qaeda and other jihadists as “unlawful combatants” rather than treat them as criminals.

The federal courts are increasingly wary of this approach, and rightly so. In a stinging rebuke, this summer a federal appeals court in Richmond, Va., struck down the government’s indefinite detention of a civilian, Ali al-Marri, by the military. The case illustrates once again the pitfalls of our current approach.

Treating terrorists as combatants is a mistake for two reasons. First, it dignifies criminality by according terrorist killers the status of soldiers. Under the law of war, military service members receive several privileges. They are permitted to kill the enemy and are immune from prosecution for doing so. They must, however, carefully distinguish between combatant and civilian and ensure that harm to civilians is limited.

Critics have rightly pointed out that traditional categories of combatant and civilian are muddled in a struggle against terrorists. In a traditional war, combatants and civilians are relatively easy to distinguish. The 9/11 hijackers, by contrast, dressed in ordinary clothes and hid their weapons. They acted not as citizens of Saudi Arabia, an ally of America, but as members of Al Qaeda, a shadowy transnational network. And their prime targets were innocent civilians.

By treating such terrorists as combatants, however, we accord them a mark of respect and dignify their acts. And we undercut our own efforts against them in the process. Al Qaeda represents no state, nor does it carry out any of a state’s responsibilities for the welfare of its citizens. Labeling its members as combatants elevates its cause and gives Al Qaeda an undeserved status.

If we are to defeat terrorists across the globe, we must do everything possible to deny legitimacy to their aims and means, and gain legitimacy for ourselves. As a result, terrorism should be fought first with information exchanges and law enforcement, then with more effective domestic security measures. Only as a last resort should we call on the military and label such activities “war.” The formula for defeating terrorism is well known and time-proven.

Labeling terrorists as combatants also leads to this paradox: while the deliberate killing of civilians is never permitted in war, it is legal to target a military installation or asset. Thus the attack by Al Qaeda on the destroyer Cole in Yemen in 2000 would be allowed, as well as attacks on command and control centers like the Pentagon. For all these reasons, the more appropriate designation for terrorists is not “unlawful combatant” but the one long used by the United States: criminal.

The second major problem with the approach of the Bush administration is that it endangers our political traditions and our commitment to liberty, and further damages America’s legitimacy in the eyes of others. Almost 50 years ago, at the height of the cold war, the Supreme Court reaffirmed the “deeply rooted and ancient opposition in this country to the extension of military control over civilians.”

A great danger in treating operatives for Al Qaeda as combatants is precisely that its members are not easily distinguished from the population at large. The government wields frightening power when it can designate who is, and who is not, subject to indefinite military detention. The Marri case turned on this issue. Mr. Marri is a legal resident of the United States and a citizen of Qatar; the government contends that he is a sleeper agent of Al Qaeda. For the last four years he has been held as an enemy combatant at the Navy brig in Charleston, S.C.

The federal court held that while the government can arrest and convict civilians, under current law the military cannot seize and detain Mr. Marri. Nor would it necessarily be constitutional to do so, even if Congress expressly authorized the military detention of civilians. At the core of the court’s reasoning is the belief that civilians and combatants are distinct. Had Ali al-Marri fought for an enemy nation, military detention would clearly be proper. But because he is accused of being a member of Al Qaeda, and is a citizen of a friendly nation, he should not be treated as a warrior.

Cases like this illustrate that in the years since 9/11, the Bush administration’s approach to terrorism has created more problems than it has solved. We need to recognize that terrorists, while dangerous, are more like modern-day pirates than warriors. They ought to be pursued, tried and convicted in the courts. At the extreme, yes, military force may be required. But the terrorists themselves are not “combatants.” They are merely criminals, albeit criminals of an especially heinous type, and that label suggests the appropriate venue for dealing with the threats they pose.

We train our soldiers to respect the line between combatant and civilian. Our political leaders must also respect this distinction, lest we unwittingly endanger the values for which we are fighting, and further compromise our efforts to strengthen our security.

Wesley K. Clark, the former supreme commander of NATO, is a fellow at the Burkle Center for International Relations at the University of California at Los Angeles. Kal Raustiala is a law professor and the director of the Burkle Center.

Submitted by msbehavinforclark on August 8, 2007 - 10:21am.

Has he ever stated why he chose to call them this, rather than calling them criminals?

As Wes says, "They are permitted to kill the enemy and are immune from prosecution for doing so." It doesn't make sense then that Bush would "undercut our own efforts against them...."

So I don't get it. Bush always has had spurious, deceitful reasons for whatever he says or does, so why would he deliberately use this particular terminology? How does he benefit?

Submitted by Ellen on August 8, 2007 - 12:13pm.

one of his 'people' thought of the term.

They either did or didn't think about the consequences, but 'criminals' in this country have a lot of rights.

Submitted by msbehavinforclark on August 8, 2007 - 12:52pm.

and if I asked him my Q he would cross his arms and say, "I don't recall." ugh!

Submitted by bill on August 8, 2007 - 2:44pm.

thought on "enemy combatants," I believe
this this obscure, gray area notion was
brought up in conjunction with their intent
to ignore the Geneva Conventions and to use
torture.

It is nothing more than a construct to
legitimate their actions, and as wes has
correctly said, it has been counterproductive.

GONZO describing the Geneva Conventions
as quaint and out-moded are maybe the biggest
abrogation of an attorney general's duty I
have ever seen.

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

the general, he gets it; GC ahead of the curve.

(sorry for maybe stating the obvious.)

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Submitted by TIMinINDIANA on August 8, 2007 - 2:52pm.

and his putting sheet over the naked lady stature look tame. And Ashcroft knew when the Consititution was being manipulated as he lay in the hospital with the ghouls over him.

Don't Blame Me for the last 25 years, I voted for John Anderson in 1980 and Wes Clark in 2004. :-)


Submitted by Ellen on August 8, 2007 - 3:40pm.

and became close to admirable that night in the hospital! Have we thanked his wife???

Submitted by Ellen on August 8, 2007 - 3:38pm.

you got it. They don't do anything 'by mistake,' and 'there are no coincidences.'

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Submitted by Phoebe_in_Sydney on August 8, 2007 - 9:35pm.

that if you call them criminals, you have to try them in the criminal courts, and Bush wants to have his cake and eat it too.

he doesn't want them to be soldiers, because that would make them subject to Geneva conventions.

He doesn't want them to be criminals, because that gives them access to a well-established legal system -- that requires pesky things like proof, habeas corpus, charges even!

He wants to be able to lock them up for as long as he likes and mete out whatever torture or humiliation he and his administration feel inclined to mete out, without answering to anyone.

You'd be taking them to the Better Business Bureau if you bought a washing machine the way we went into the war in Iraq. Wes Clark, CNN Aug 17 2003


Submitted by msbehavinforclark on August 8, 2007 - 10:25am.
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Submitted by kaflinn on August 8, 2007 - 12:06pm.

This is a discussion we've not had nearly enough and it needs considerable attention!

"Our public servants work for us - we don't work for them. We have an obligation, as citizens of this country, to always remember that - and to never let them forget it." - DeadMessengers


Submitted by Kat on August 8, 2007 - 1:10pm.

You may or may not know that the number of emails sent from the NY Times email link on this article will directly impact the frequency that WKC is able to contribute as an OPEd writer there. Get out your address books. Go directly to the article's 'email' button http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/08/opinion/08clark.html and send emails to your friends and relations (you can send 20 at a time). Help get the message out and pass this advice along please. Kat

Submitted by Bernie Quigley on August 8, 2007 - 1:39pm.

Since John Kerry borrowed General Clark's steam and used the phrase, "John Kerry reporting for duty," at the '04 Dem Convention; a line we who attended his events had all heard Wesley Clark use before, General Clark has increasingly become the "representative" Democratic Party figure. Several then, including Howard Dean and Kerry, seemed to want General Clark as VP - he was the "alter ego" for Democrats in '04. But the Dems had become trapped in a public persona of passivity and domestication long cultivated in peace time, which they could no longer GET THEMSELVES OUT OF. As an old professor of mine once said (about something else), "We had created a mask for ourselves that fit so well we couldn't get it off." Hillary Clinton was the perfect representative of this public persona - of what Giuliani and others came to call the "nanny" party - and thus became the considered candidate. She would have been the perfect President in the giddy Wall St. party between '93 to '01; in my estimation better and more representative of the '90s than her husband. But the season has passed. Today and since 9/11, Wesley Clark has increasingly become the candidates that DEMOCRATS WANT TO BE & the country at large is quickly becoming aware of it and awakened to it.

Submitted by Ellen on August 8, 2007 - 1:50pm.

and we all will have to take advantage of it!

With every media 'appearance,' comment etc.

IMO, Hillary provided opposition plenty ammo to eliminate her from MANY people's minds, and General Clark has and WILL provide more and more fodder for big wins!

Lets get to it, because as you have said, Mr. Q, dems are ready for a new party, and we must be prepared to help them get it, NOW!

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Submitted by Stan4Clark on August 8, 2007 - 3:08pm.

Too bad that too many people don't know it.

Stan Davis
Lakewood, CO
Wes Clark -- Don't settle for less.
Make America All It Can Be!


Submitted by Vicky on August 8, 2007 - 8:17pm.

I received an e-mail a couple of weeks ago from Barbara Lawton informing me she was endorsing HC and asked for my support as well. No can do. I admire HC, but I have absolutely no desire to see her run for president. Of course, I will vote against any Republican in '08. Not necessarily for any Democrat!

And I was so disappointed that this came from Lawton. I assume she would have discussed Wes' plans before making such a decision.

Ohhhh, booooooo-hoooooo!

Leadership means lifting people up. --Wes Clark

Submitted by Bernie Quigley on August 8, 2007 - 9:10pm.

for a Lt. Gov. of such an important state to endorse anyone so early but it seems part of a breakdown of competence and professionalism in the rank and file. NH now must hold its primary on Jan. 8 or earlier, as So. Carolina has just gone to Jan. 19. This mischief and incompetence will have consequences: Former Senator Sam Nunn (D-GA) said to AP recently "he is frustrated with the direction of the presidential race and acknowledged talking with New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg and others about an independent challenge to the major parties."

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Submitted by Stan4Clark on August 8, 2007 - 11:53pm.

Irresponsible? When would it be "responsible"? After all, there are only 5 months before the shooting starts.

Stan Davis
Lakewood, CO
Wes Clark -- Don't settle for less.
Make America All It Can Be!


Submitted by Cathy Lee B on August 9, 2007 - 7:23am.

and let her know your feelings, Vicky?
I did, in no uncertain terms!
Made me feel better...

"Now more than ever"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAtcz4CaMos

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Submitted by LJM on August 8, 2007 - 2:19pm.

was treated as a criminal. He's no different from any of these other guys. He's locked up forever. The system worked.


Submitted by bill on August 8, 2007 - 2:37pm.

does not. He is fond of saying, ad naseum,
that the democrats blah blah f blah will treat this as law
enforcement---with no explanations
or rationale for NOT doing it that way, just
so he can appear tough.

for a lawyer, frankly, he's not that bright, and
he has ZERO national security and/or foreign
relations experience.

Also, he is not honest because a law
enforcement approach is NOT IMCOMPATIBLE
with military action were warranted,
a proper use of military, as opoosed to
some tired old meme slogan.

god, I would like to be a moderator and ask
him some questions

sorry, no BU$H lite in 08!!!!!!!!!!

Bill (from RI)

Submitted by shortie on August 8, 2007 - 3:54pm.

That's one of the things Wes mentions when he goes down his litany of Clinton foreign policy accomplishments and he adds on, "Number of American soldiers killed: ZERO."

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Submitted by Arky Sue on August 9, 2007 - 12:23am.

scoffed and ridiculed Kerry for suggesting that these people be treated as criminals, suggesting that that was some sort of weak approach to the problem. Of course he was wrong again. W stands for Wrong.

Wes Clark: Soldier, Scholar, Statesman.


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